Surgical Oncology

Breast Cancer Spread?

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Case Overview

  • FL
  • 30 years old, Female

30 year old female finds palpable abnormality to right breast.

3/14/24 Diagnostic mammogram/ultrasound shows irregular indistinct hypoechoic mass measuring 1.4 x 1.1 x 1.2cm which corresponds to the palpable lump.

4/8/24 biopsy performed and path returns as follows: invasive ductal carcinoma, Grade 2, pT2pN0, ER+(>90%) PR+(81-90%) HER 2-(1+)

5/9/24 bone scan is negative

5/23/24 SAVI Scout placement

5/24/24 partial mastectomy with axillary node removal. Path shows all margins clear but for medial margin. Nodes clear.

5/31/24 Re-excision of medial margin. Path is negative margin.

@6/15/24 Patient notices small nodule over the site where the SAVI had been placed in May.

7/2/24 The site is punch biopsied and demonstrates infiltrating ductal carcinoma, intermediate nuclear grade, involving the dermis and epidermis. ER positive, PR positive, HER2negative. There are notes in the chart that the thought process was that the new site was seeding from the biopsy in April or the SAVI SCout placement.

7/5/24 US of right breast shows indistinct hypoechoic mass at the area of interest measuring 1.4 x .6 x .8 cm involving the skin.

7/26/24 Right breast tract excision. Path shows carcinoma in new medial surgical margin. Right breat mass margin: invasive moderately differentiated ductal carcinoma, consistent with recurrence, 1.6 cm in greatest dimension. Carcinoma is present at the anterior margin.

8/5/24 PET/CT: There is extensive adenopathy throughout the mediastinum. Scattered lung lesions including the left apex and left posterior sulcus may be pleural based. Multiple bone lesions are identified in the spine, pelvis and femur.

My questions are as follows:

1. Was the recurrence and new nodule the result of seeding from biopsy or SAVI scout placement? If so, does this represent a standard of care deviation?

2. Was Stage IV (mets) the result of seeding from the biopsy or SAVI placement or was it likely present at the time of the initial diagnosis despite negative bone scan?

3. If Mets was likely present (even microscopically) at the time of initial diagnosis, why were the axillary nodes clean?

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Case Questions

Q: Was there molecular testing on tumor

A: The initial tumor biopsied which led to partial mastectomy was High Risk 1, Luminal-Type (B)

Q: Was a oncotype performed? It's the only molecular test which is part of the NCCN guidelines and AJCC?

A: Yes. RS: 13. Please also note that there is indication that the new lump after mastectomy was area of initial biopsy. Patient refused a clip during the US guided biopsy.

Q: Genetics, MRI or ultrasound of the axilla?

A: MRI of breast performed on April 26, 2024 interpreted as no other suspicious patterns of enhancement other than the one mass. Level 1 axillary nodes thickness of .6cm, and remain nonspecific.

Q: Did the final pathology report state the entire tumor was removed?

A: It notes that the primary tumor was not present at the medial surface of the main specimen, the tumor in the additional medial margin is most consistent with an additional focus of invasive carcinoma.Right IDC 2.6cm Grade 2, 0/4 SLNs. pT2pN0

Q: Was a Ct of the chest abdomen and pelvis completed with the bone scan?

A: CT scan was not ordered as she had no symptoms.

Q: Can you send me the official path report from Surgery?

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Q: If they ordered a bone scan the physician was concerned about metastatic disease. So, a metastatic work-up is either a Bone Scan and CT of the chest, abdomen and pelvis OR a Body PET Scan.

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Q: Your notes state the pathology report stated a 2.6 cm tumor and the US in July measured the tumor at 1.6 cm. The entire case does not make sense.

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3 Case Responses - Was there any negligence?

Do you believe there might have been medical error?

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1 - Definitely No

It’s not related to seeding from Savi It was the biology of tumor

Do you believe there might have been causation (i.e. the medical error resulted in an injury)?

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1 - Definitely No

Doctors did not deviate from standard of care and care provided was correct

What makes you a good expert for this case?

I performed more than 10 breast cancer cases per week I have been practicing breast cancer care for more than 20 years I have published and written books about breast cancer I am a professor of surgical oncology

How often do you encounter cases similar to this one in your practice?

Every 6 months will see patients that have breast cancers with aggressive biology despite early stage at beginning with most likely multi focal and multi centric disease and occult skin disease

Do you believe there might have been medical error?

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2 - Extremely Unlikely

Case Summary: The patient presented with a palpable right breast abnormality. Imaging revealed a 1.4 cm irregular hypoechoic mass. Biopsy confirmed invasive ductal carcinoma, Grade 2, ER/PR positive, HER2 negative. She underwent lumpectomy with margin re-excision; axillary nodes were negative. Shortly after surgery, she developed a dermal/epidermal recurrence at the SAVI Scout placement site. Despite local re-excision, she was found to have widely metastatic disease (mediastinal adenopathy, pulmonary lesions, and multiple osseous metastases) by August 2024. ⸻ 1. Was the dermal recurrence due to biopsy or SAVI Scout seeding? Does this represent a deviation in standard of care? • Likelihood of seeding: Tumor seeding at sites of biopsy or localization device placement has been described in the literature but remains rare. Both core needle biopsies and SAVI Scout placements theoretically introduce a risk of dislodging tumor cells into the tract or dermis. The clinical course (tumor recurrence localized to the prior device/biopsy tract) is consistent with this possibility. • Standard of care: Importantly, use of image-guided core biopsy and SAVI Scout localization represents accepted standard of care in the diagnosis and surgical management of breast cancer. The occurrence of seeding is a recognized but rare complication, not a deviation. Opinion: The recurrence could plausibly have resulted from biopsy or SAVI Scout tract seeding, but this does not represent a breach of the standard of care. ⸻ 2. Was Stage IV metastatic disease caused by biopsy/SAVI seeding, or was it likely present at initial diagnosis? • Biopsy/SAVI as cause of systemic disease: There is no evidence that biopsy tract or SAVI seeding can account for the rapid development of diffuse mediastinal, pulmonary, and skeletal metastases. These reflect systemic disease biology rather than iatrogenic dissemination. • Bone scan interpretation: A negative bone scan in April does not exclude microscopic metastases. Standard staging for early breast cancer (node-negative, ~1.4 cm mass, ER/PR+) does not require systemic staging unless there are symptoms or abnormal labs. In fact, the bone scan performed was beyond standard requirements. • Timing: The rapid appearance of multiple metastases by August strongly suggests they were present but below detection thresholds at diagnosis, rather than arising from the local recurrence. Opinion: The Stage IV disease was most likely present at the time of initial diagnosis. It cannot be attributed to biopsy or SAVI seeding. ⸻ 3. If metastases were present, why were axillary nodes negative? Several possibilities explain this: 1. Alternative drainage pathways: Medial breast tumors may preferentially drain to the internal mammary chain, bypassing axillary nodes. 2. False negative rate: Sentinel lymph node biopsy carries a recognized false-negative rate (5–10%). A small number of micrometastatic deposits could have been missed. 3. Disease biology: Hematogenous spread can occur independently of nodal involvement, particularly in biologically aggressive tumors. Opinion: Negative axillary nodes do not preclude the presence of systemic disease, particularly with medial tumors or biologically aggressive variants. ⸻ Summary Opinion • The dermal recurrence may have been related to biopsy or SAVI tract seeding, a rare but recognized complication, not a deviation from standard of care. • The systemic metastases were almost certainly present at diagnosis and are not explained by local seeding events. • Negative axillary nodes are consistent with either alternative lymphatic drainage, limitations of sentinel node biopsy, or direct hematogenous dissemination. • Overall, the treating physicians’ approach—including biopsy, SAVI Scout localization, surgery, and staging—was consistent with the standard of care.

Do you believe there might have been causation (i.e. the medical error resulted in an injury)?

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2 - Extremely Unlikely

There is biological causation for the biopsy/localization procedure and the local recurrence, less likely the metastatic disease. There is no legal causation since biopsy procedures and localization are standard of care.

What makes you a good expert for this case?

I am a board-certified surgical oncologist with expertise in the diagnosis and surgical management of breast and gastrointestinal cancers. In my practice, I routinely utilize image-guided biopsy, sentinel lymph node biopsy, and seed localization to guide care, and I manage patients from early-stage through metastatic disease. I also have academic and research interests in how surgical interventions may influence cancer progression, which supports my ability to provide balanced, evidence-based opinions on whether outcomes represent recognized complications or deviations from the standard of care.

How often do you encounter cases similar to this one in your practice?

In my breast practice, I have encountered very few cases of biopsy or localization tract seeding — fewer than five over the course of my career. This reflects how uncommon the complication is in breast cancer. However, I routinely manage patients with aggressive cancers such as pancreatic cancer, where surgical site seeding and biologically aggressive recurrences are much more frequently encountered. That broader experience gives me a strong understanding of the mechanisms by which surgical manipulation can contribute to tumor spread, even in less common scenarios like this one.

Do you believe there might have been medical error?

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9 - Extremely Likely

Answers: 1. I don't think the recurrence was a real recurrence. It sounds like the initial cancer was not totally removed. The answers about the margins were vague. The final pathology should have a T (tumor size), N (Nodal status), Grade, Margins. I would want to see the entire report. The Savi Scout came to the surface because it was most likely NOT removed at the initial surgery which can happen in up to 30% of cases. The details provided makes me think the index cancer was not removed and continued to grow "pushing" the Savi marker to the surface. 2. The Stage IV disease is very odd. Did they biopsy the metastatic lesion to confirm there was concordance with the index lesion? A sentinel lymph node biopsy has a positive predictive value of 98% with dual tracers. However, approximately 7.2% of metastatic breast cancers "bypass" the axillary lymph nodes. Which would be odd in a low grade, Oncotype tumor (13). The case was not appropriately "worked-up" before proceeding with surgery. A 30 year old most likely has dense breast, so an MRI would have been a better option to completely evaluate both breasts to ensure there was not a second lesion. The mammaprint is not the standard of care and is very limited. The time from biopsy to surgery was delayed, 80 days. Studies have demonstrated a delay of more than 40 days on a a low-grade tumor can decrease survival and recurrence. The SAVI didn't cause the tumor to invade the epidermis. Breast caners do not "spread' at the tract of surgery or biopsy. Only renal celI carcinomas, sarcoma or gallbladder cancers 'seed' the tract. This cancer was most likely not completely excised and grew to involve the epidermis. I suspect the index cancer was not removed at the time of the surgery on May 24th or a second tumor was not identified. Even though it appeared to be a slow growing tumor, they can spread over time. The work-up was incomplete and it appears the pathology was "lacking." I suspect the index tumor was not removed or a second tumor was not seen because of the dense tissue. The entire case is concerning.

Do you believe there might have been causation (i.e. the medical error resulted in an injury)?

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9 - Extremely Likely

As stated above, there appears to be a lack in the work-up of this patient. No genetics, MRI, Oncotype, US of the axilla and a complete metastatic work-up. I have a large number of questions about the treatment of this patient's breast cancer. From the initial information provided, there appears to be a deviation from the standard of care.

What makes you a good expert for this case?

I am a Fellow Trained Breast Surgical Oncology and Board Certified General Surgeon. I have been in practice for 19 years. I have reviewed a significant number of breast cases and have been fortunate to see patients for second opinions from all over the country. This case leaves me with a large number of questions that are concerning.

How often do you encounter cases similar to this one in your practice?

Every week. I see a large number of second or even third opinions for these types of patients.